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The number of (triode) valve amplifier producers today compared to two decades ago is phenomenal and there's a steadily increasing interest in high-efficiency speakers, thus this page on my experiences of high-efficiency speakers and some comments to what I've picked up from the web.

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Why bother about 95-100 dB/1 watt speakers when we have almost unlimited power available from solid state or digital amps? Why do people build two watt single ended triode valve amps with subsequent need for extremely efficient speakers? Is it pure nostalgia or do these systems have something to offer conventional hifi does not?
I guess it has to be heard to be believed, and not only that, you have to kind of 'discover' the triode sound. Some will, some won't and taste cannot be argued, but not all will think flea-powered triode amps and high-efficiency speakers are the best since sliced bread.
The need for extremely low moving mass calls for serious compromises in terms of possible cone break-up and possible linear and un-linear distortion as I'll elaborate on later.

There are not a whole lot of places to go and hear low-wattage SET amplification combined with good high-efficiency speakers. And even if we do find such a place, there's a fair chance we may leave, saying: 'Is that it?' I've heard 50,000 USD triode systems that really didn't impress me. Silver trafos and everything to make the best of sounds and yet it didn't convince me at all. And I heard a system consisting of a cheap Chinese triode amp connected to pair of mock-up HES speakers that forever changed my ways of thinking hifi.

Art Dudley/Stereophile has these comments:
'Bear in mind that even the hard-core single-ended-triode movement wasn't conceived as just a new branch of high-end audio: It was intended as a whole new tree, by hobbyists who considered the old tree to be very, very sick. To the SET pioneers, audio had gone from being an interesting way of enjoying recorded music to a turgid and fetishistic exercise in irrelevance in which wealthy men with too much time on their hands try to outdo each other in identifying arcane sound effects in a handful of guru-approved recordings.
Also remember that the high-end audio establishment didn't take long to dismiss the SET guys as a bunch of self-conscious hipsters less concerned with fidelity than with the coolness factor: gracelessly aging punk wannabes whose willingness to live with grossly colored , narrow range sound reproduction is rivalled only by their disdain for any model of amplifier or speaker that might be owned by more than two other people.
The fact is, there's an archetypal high-end audio sound and an archetypal SET sound. At its best, high-end audio sound is impressive open and clear, with deep bass, shimmering highs, and a flair for thrilling spatial effects: At its worst, it's lifeless , boring, constricted, undramatic, uninvolving, and incapable of any suggestion of flow in the music.
At its best, SET sound has the kind of punch and drama that can startle you out of your pants - plus real musical drive, momentum, presence, and tone; at its worst, it has no bass, no treble, and a level of coloration and sheer fuzz that could drive you out of your house after a few songs'.

'The punch and the drama' - is what we're always looking for and sometimes SET + HES can deliver this kind of aural nirvana. I've been sitting next to people experiencing SET + HES for the first time and saying: 'Holy crap, this sounds like music!' I've had people in listening to the OB7 and saying: ' - whauu...this sounds like a live performance!' So, what do these people do after returning home? They start yet another project based on an 85 dB heavy alu cone driver. Either the prospect of bringing two 100-200 litre cabs into their living room is too scary or the last 30 years of hifi-tradition is so engraved into our way of thinking hifi that we resign and turn to well-known technology.
In some cases I'm sure the prospect of huge cabs and glowing valve amps is simply not the way they want their system to look. We may have fixed ideas of what our system is going to look like and that's what it's going to be. Period!
From what I pick up meeting hifi people, most gear is bought on looks rather on sound. It has to at least look expensive and project potency. The drivers even have to look sexy! Very much like buying a fancy sports car, except that huge and expensive hifi systems do not attract (young) girls! On the contrary! Most likely it will only produce sympathy for the poor spouse that has to live with these weird looking monsters.
Expensive hifi gear is show-off to your (young) male friends and whoever is going to follow presentations on countless discussion forums, where people display pictures of their systems and are being congratulated every time they've made a new purchase.
Old farts - like myself - no longer care too much about visual appearance, although I do like to make nice products from time to time. The satisfaction and pride of good craftmanship is - hopefully - a never ending issue.

A lot of things can be found on the web on high-efficiency speakers and what these speakers can do - and not so much about what they cannot do.
So, can high-efficiency speakers do things low-efficiency speakers simply cannot? Well, try a 12-15', 96-100 dB/1W bass driver on an open baffle - or in a huge vented cabinet - and hear what it does to a kick-drum and make your own judgement.
Take an 8' Supravox, place it on an open baffle or in a TQWT, mate it with a proper 95 dB tweeter, do a proper crossover (the tough part) - and hear what it can do. Hearing treble from a good fullrange driver can be very special despite serious beaming and it may change our way of thinking treble as we're so intoxicated from 1' domes and how treble usually sounds.
Somewhere I said we cannot accelerate heavy cones as fast as a light-weight e.g. paper cone and I immediately had a mail from an engineer who told me I was seriously wrong - and he was right. Acceleration has nothing to do with mass, only force. Problem is we don't have magnet systems that will accelerate a 200 grams subwoofer cone and kick butt like an old 15' ALTEC driver in a 200 litre vented cabinet. It's two worlds. Subwoofer drivers are supposed to say ooomph... in small cabs and being often used to reproduce electronic music we really can't tell what it should sound like. Electronic music can sound like anything, but it's not the kind of bass performance I like to hear from an up-right bass. Acoustic bass shouldn't say oomph and I don't even think a Fender bass sounds the way it should from a conventional heavy-cone subwoofer.

Aiming at really, really high-efficiency, there are prices to be paid like in any extreme direction. 2-3 watts from a 2A3 SET triode is not a whole lot of power. Some manufacturers claim their 2 watt SET amps to perform well with 90 dB (minimum) speakers. Yes, yes, if you never ever play at anything more than - to my volume setting - well below average listening levels. I know what it's like to sit 5th or 10th row in a club and listen to a jazz quartet. It's damned loud and I want my ultimate speaker to be able to recreate some of that drama. This doesn't mean I drive my speakers to 95 dB average level - far from - but I may play my speakers a bit louder compared to the average listener judged from the visitors I have. Playing the 15' Tannoys at realistic levels I remember one visitor who almost fell off the chair from hearing a snare drum being hit hard. I mean, this is what it's like at a concert....
When I visit our local Symphonic Hall and all 70 musicians are on the stage it sometimes goes pretty loud too. No wonder even classical musicians are complaining about damage to their hearing. And by the way, there's not a whole lot of deep bass, even from a full orchestra with 4-6 bass players.
Now, recreating a live musical event from 2 watts take serious measures and I won't recommend anything less than 97-98 dB sensitivity, preferably 100 dB/2.8V. Some day I'll try to make a ~100 dB system from my Supravox drivers with the 215RTF in front and 2 x 215GMF in a double-tapered-quarterwave-tube. Simulation suggest a system sensitivity around 100 dB in the lower midrange. (Done: read
here)
If we fall in love with a 2 watt SET amp we do not set up a 100 dB system from a 15-18 inch bass and suitable mid and tweeter drivers. We need very light-weight cone drivers, around 5-10 grams and an easy impedance load too. Flea-powered amps can't handle 4-5 inch voice coils and heavy cones. Some say they can but I don't think it's an ideal situation.

Single driver systems
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Looking for high efficiency speakers on the web, we find the single-driver aficionados. These people use wide range drivers with very light-weight cones, reaching well up above 10 kHz, making the need for tweeters questionable. Sometimes only acoustic equalisation of the drivers are permitted. Crossover components are definitely no-no! Purity and simplicity at any cost?
If we want a single driver to do it all, the driver cone simply cannot be very big in order to keep mass low and maintain some treble level, and the price to pay is weak or no bass at all, unless we load it with a huge horn. A 5' driver fitted with a 3-5 grams membrane may be a suitable compromise. The Fostex construction at Nelson Pass' website may be the best compromise if it has to be 'the one and only':

http://www.passdiy.com/pdf/KleinHorn.pdf; I guess WAF is at an all-time low. But I'd like to hear it for sure.
For those interested in single driver speakers, the single-driver website
http://fullrangedriver.com/ is a must.

If we increase driver size to 8' diameter, treble may be limited unless we use a whizzer cone and the whizzer cone introduces some new problems. I still have to see (and hear) a decent response profile from a whizzer cone driver. People play all sorts of games to tame the uneven response from these drivers and the often seen rise in amplitude at 3-8 kHz (e.g. Lowther).
The response graphs presented at manufacturer's websites are usually fake or digitally manipulated to look reasonably smooth. But response graphs tell only little about sonic performance. I've had drivers showing bad response profiles, yet didn't sound harsh or sibilant at all. All depends on what causes the response irregularities. As a rule of thumb: If a peak does not follow a serious dip in frequency response, the peak may be kind of good-natured, only representing higher level in a certain area, not tearing our ears apart as if derived from serious cone break-ups and sudden very sharp phase shifts (Again:
Lowther).

There are a few exceptions to this. The vintage Altec 755C may be worth a look.
http://members.myactv.net/~je245/755survey.htm
These drivers appear to have a rather smooth response all the way up to 10-11 kHz. But the price for a good pairs of these drivers is horrific. Sometimes 2-3000 US $/pair on eBay. Be sure you won't have any bass below 70 Hz from an open baffle here. These drivers have absolute cult status and pity no one makes a similar driver today. It could be made for nothing.


Here in an old Western Electric version.

PHY-PH extended range drivers
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I think the French PHY-PH drivers look interesting. High efficiency drivers with lightweight paper cones - and no whizzers! These drivers are aimed at an upper limit of some 8-10 kHz and an unusual tweeter is supplied; a small 70 milligrams paper cone driven by a piezo electric device. It doesn't say much below 10 kHz. I would love to do an open baffle 3-way from their 12' drivers, the 8' for mid and possibly this piezo 'thing' for treble. But this would be something like 25-30,000 DKK or ~5-6,000 US $. Quite some money. Let's take a closer look at one of these PHY-PH drivers, the H 21 LB 15. I recently found a French website showing a magazine test on drivers in this category. But first the data from the PHY-PH website (left image) - and some LspCAD simulation/crosscalc. Even with a few data we can try calculating if what the company claims can be right. Quite often we find major deviations from claimed data, usually too high sensitivity, too low Fs and too low Qt.


Click images in middle to view large.

Usually Re and membrane area is correct. Moving mass may be measured before assembling the driver. These are the easy parameters. Rms (the mechanical resistance of a driver's suspension (lossiness) in N·s/m) and Cms (compliance of the driver's suspension, in metres per newton (the reciprocal of its stiffness)) are some of the tricky ones as they are dependent on the signal applied during measurement. All drivers are highly un-linear devices and what we get is dependent on how we measure and there's no fixed rules for doing so. By manipulating cone mass, compliance, etc. in LspCAD we can usually by cross-calculation get a set of data that looks plausible. And I've often found these data to better correlate to what I measure for e.g. sensitivity. The claimed efficiency on the H 21 driver seems to be quite optimistic. 98 dB, although the website doesn't tell whether this is sensitivity or efficiency. Either way, I suggest being a bit sceptical when someone claims 98 dB from an 8' driver. At least don't expect much bass from such a driver.

Click image to the right: This is what a French magazine found. Here we read '94 dB' - and again we are not told what it is. 2.8 volts or 1 W? It does make a difference when we're dealing with a driver having an Re = 12.9 ohms. Fs is 10 Hz higher than claimed. I'm not surprised. This was what I found for the Supravox drivers as well. The frequency response doesn't quite look like what is shown at the PHY-PH website. Looks like we have a 5-6 dB peak at possibly 5-6 kHz. Hard to read the scan. The Qt is much higher than claimed. 0.83 rather than 0.59. Anyway, we have a driver that is born to be used on an open baffle. The interesting review can be found here (in French): http://petoindominique.fr/php/planhp.php

One important thing: What we often hear reported from single driver set-ups, is the revelation of minute details in the recording, things we have never heard before. BUT, if we increase a narrow frequency band some 3-4 dB - and from fullrange drivers with whizzer cones we often experience major peaks in frequency response, much more than 3-4 dB - we will always hear things we never heard before.
What we may experience here is sometimes not the ability of a certain driver to reveal details much better than other drivers, but simply a matter of amplitude (linear distortion) revealing certain parts of the recording more 'transparent'.
If we linearise an e.g.
Lowther driver - which, by the way, is very difficult - it sounds no more transparent or 'transient' than most other drivers. 'Oohh, but you take the 'life' out of my drivers' the response may be. Damn, yes I do, becasuse what we perceive as 'life' and 'transient capability' is nothing more than low-fi linear distortion and if you want to continue listening to severe linear distortion - and morn about certain recordings being troublesome - be my guest.
Amplitude and phase irregularities are linear distortion. The music really wasn't meant to sound like this. Taste cannot be argued, but don't tell me a particular driver can reveal details no other driver can if derived from an e.g. 5-7 dB peak in a certain area. It may overall sound good, and I won't argue against that, but it's basically a distorted signal and low-fi. To a certain degree we may learn to live with it, but a long term relationship is questionable.
More serious is non-linear distortion, harmonic, intermodulation and whatever may come from poorly constructed drivers or from the box in which the driver is placed.

One single driver set-up I think looks interesting is found at Decware:
http://www.decware.com/newsite/mainmenu.htm. A tweaked Fostex driver and some interesting vented designs aimed at reducing standing waves inside the cabinet. But Steve Deckert, please show us high-resolution impedance curves from your designs.

An interesting comparison of single drivers can be found here: http://www.tnt-audio.com/shows/etf03_e.html; I wish I'd been there..

I recently had an opportunity to test the all time full-range classics: Lowthers. Read here: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Lowther.htm
These drivers are in my 'worst drivers ever had' category together with
Wharfedale Super 8s. Sorry, Lowther lovers!

2-3-way high-efficiency systems

Next on the web we find people aiming at high efficiency but from multiple drivers and yes, we may even find crossover components. The Dick Olsher website is an example, http://www.blackdahlia.com/html/tip_56.html. Large 12-15' bass drivers in large vented cabs - or on open baffles - and a speedy 8' (Lowther, Fostex or even greencones) for mid + e.g. ribbon tweeters for highs. Gut feeling tells these are best driven by bi-amping and the bass section may like a sturdy solid state amp.

An interesting TQWT variant is the double Voigt horn, where all drivers are placed in conical horns (TQWT) of possible different lengths and firing into the same common middle section. The woofers can be connected in parallel or series depending on impedance of actual drivers.

The two bass drivers are fed through a huge coil, the mid no-whizzer-Lowther is having a series LCR to smooth the upper midrange/lower treble and the tweeter runs from a single cap. A fairly simple design, but finding the right drivers and doing the necessary driver tweaks has probably taken quite some time. I've heard a system like this fitted with a no-whizzer Lowther and a ribbon tweeter and it wasn't good. I brought my torture female vocals and it couldn't handle it. Serious distortion in upper midrange.

It's remarkable that so few impedance plots can be found on high-efficiency commercial designs. Actually I don't know of any. How does a Lowther impedance profile look from an exponential horn? What about the Living Voice d'Appolitos? How about Beauhorns? And the Horning Hybrids? A few frequency response graphs have shown up lately, but impedance? Nobody apparently wants to speak about it - or manufacturers don't want to show it. Unfortunately few horn speakers show up in Stereophile to be dissected by John Atkinson. Impedance plots show an awful lot about how the drivers are performing in the actual cabinet, and higher up in frequency a lot about intrinsic driver performance, e.g. resonances in cones and suspensions.
Speaking about impedances and low-wattage amps we shouldn't forget that due to the usual low damping factor of e.g. SET amps we may get away with a bass-light design having an F3 of 55-60 Hz and still get a decent low-end response. Matching gear becomes very important. I suggest reading Paul Messenger's report on first-watt and transconductance amplification in the January 2007 Stereophile edition, page 23.

- size, efficiency and bass extension
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Efficiency is inversely proportional to the moving mass and - proportional to the square of the product of cone area and BL.

No matter what we do, we have to balance three basic parameters, size, efficiency and low-end extension, the trade-offs in loudspeaker building.

The importance of priorities
The higher the importance of one parametre, the more we have to give in on the two others.

If size is not a limiting factor, we can get really low bass and very high efficiency.

If size is restricted, we have to sacrifice efficiency - or low-end extension.

If you want high efficiency - and small volume - you have to sacrifice deep bass.

Etc.

The thing is - we can't have it all. You have to pick your priorities.

So, once upon a time -


- the family would gather happily around the Altec alter, and -


- women would help their husbands building humongous cabs - or would they really?

Post scriptum

Drivers

I had a mail from a guy who had just heard a pair of vintage Pioneer speakers, actually the HPM-100. Below to the left:

The questions from the writer were these: Why does this speaker provide such a pleasant sound? Why is it so easy to listen to? What does it have that most modern speakers do not have?
Well, I have never heard the HPM-100s, but this speaker is a Japanese clone of the famous
JBL L100 Century (speaker to the right above). The JBL was a three-way system not having the supertweeters these Pioneers have.
One important thing that may be part of the 'pleasant' sound and an 'easy to listen to' speaker is probably the fact that a major part of the midrange is handled by a large cone. The JBL 12' bass driver really handles all of the midrange and the Pioneer probably also. Large cones = minor cone movement and reduced distortion. Now, the L100 is (was) not the most respected speaker around when it comes to neutrality, three-dimensionality and a number of other parameters we take for granted these days. The mid had major trouble due to poor filtering but I wouldn't be surprised if Pioneer had made a decent crossover for this speaker - and probably used a middriver not as notoriously difficult as the JBL LE5-2. I guess the system sensitivity is around 90 dB like the JBL L100.

A 12' driver usually has a cone area of a little more than 500 cm^2. This is more than 3 times a ScanSpeak 18W/8531G00 driver! Imagine 3 x 6½ drivers in the same cab. A 12' based system can do things none of today's 6' skinny runts can do. It seems like most diy'ers start with a 6' 2-way making deep bass from 24-33 litre and an efficiency rarely exceeding 85 dB. We're all impressed from the bass it can make - but after some time we find out it really can't play very loud and we try another 6' driver or we make a 2½-way from 2 x 6' drivers. And we're never really getting anywhere. So, if you can handle a 60-70 litre cab, find a 12' driver, mount it on the side if the speaker must be skinny and use a 6' for midrange with a point of crossover around 250-350 Hz - and now hear what happens. With a 12' making 90-92 dB and a large middriver that no longer also has to handle the bass - we have a much better starting point in making an easy-to-listen-to speaker. Generally people have way to high expectations from a 24 litre floorstander. And they're often mislead from much too optimistic specs. Very often you can subtract 2-3 dB from claimed sensitivity and 5-15 Hz from claimed low-end extension.

The speakers of the Sixties and into the Seventies often had high-efficiency paper-cone drivers - where the British constructors were heading towards heavily coated bextrene cones with an all-time low sensitivity of 78-80 dB/2.8V and became famous for their neutral sounding speakers, e.g. Rogers, B&W, Spendor, etc.
What the British school of speakers did not have (apart from Tannoy) was maybe the speed and sparkle of some other designs - primarily from JBL, Altec and others. These manufacturers provided what was known as the 'west-coast' sound = 'tizz and boom'. Lots of boomy bass and loads of treble.

By the way: Read interview with Joachim Gerhard (Audio Physic) on the secrets of old drivers:
http://www.speakerbuilding.com/content/1039/ but don't think high mechanical Q is the only thing that makes a good driver. It must be balanced against a lot of other parameters.

11-03-2009:
Hi Troels,
I went round a friend of a friends house last night, who had about 4 valve amps and lots of vintage speakers. I was only interested in the valve amps as i have never heard one before. He had some Tannoy gold line monitors that were made in 1962, with a 10 inch dual concentric unit, hooked up to a 22 watt valve amp. I was blown away by the sound, I just couldn't believe how good the sound was that come out of these old speakers. The sound was just huge!! with fantastic clarity. I went back home to my Musical Fidelity A308 pre/power and ekta grandes and it all sounded a bit dull in comparison. How can something so old still sound so good? He seems to think its all down to the valve amps? If so, I am very impressed and will have to look into investing in a valve amp at some point in the future.
Cheers, Steve

Hi Steve,
Well, I'd say 90% speakers and 10% amps. I don't know what amps we're dealing with, but most likely you have experienced what the above HES scribbling is all about: The punch and the drama that very few modern speakers can manage. Modern drivers may excel on a number of parameters, but they were made to make deep bass from a small footprint (= high-WAF), not for a realistic reproduction of a e.g. kick-drum. If we're talking high-efficiency 10-12-15 inch drivers @ 92-98 dB/watt - we need huge cabs - or we may sacrifice the low end. I'm sure these Tannoys you've heard do not go nearly as deep as your Ekta Grandes, far from, but the other qualities are hard to ignore.
Thus my preference for
valve amps and high-efficiency speakers.

High Efficiency Speakers, II.
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2006 has brought the C17, Classic-3W and Poor Man's Strad, all producing more the 90 dB/2.8V and the C17 has had another round of tweaking, now running with a Monacor DT300 tweeter + waveguide. Read C17-II.
Looking for more than average sensitive 8' drivers for a new 3-way floorstander I came across the discontinued SEAS CA21REX driver.
Solen in Canada had a few and I found mine in Stockholm at HiFiKit.

What I wanted was an 8' driver with paper cone, foam surround and sensitivity around 91-92 dB/2.8V and this CA21REX comes close - except for the foam.The CA21REX has a short voice coil compared to the new CA22RNX and it is not made for excessively large cone excursions and may benefit from some acoustic loading. An additional magnet will provide another single dB of sensitivity. More on this later.

Last year I ordered new foam surrounds for a pair of Dynaudio 21W54 drivers from Simply Speakers in the US. The surrounds didn't fit the Dynaudios at all - they said it didn't matter if the outer diameter was too small; my goodness, of course it matters - but these foam surrounds make a perfect match for the SEAS CA21REX drivers, although they are rather thick and may provide a higher Fs than intended. We'll see. The foam surrounds will replace the rubber surrounds of the CA21REX. For midrange I think surrounds made from foam sometimes perform better than rubber, but it depends on a lot of things. Foam has very low weight and for lightweight paper cones we may not need a heavy load of rubber (mass) at the end of a thin 'sheet' of paper.
Basically the surround is supposed to make an acoustic barrier between front and rear and only provide a minor part of the total compliance, approx. 20% according to Vance Dickason. The spider, not the outer surrounds, should provide the main compliance, but this may depend on the properties of the cones, e.g. stiffness and mass. The properties of the outer surround are a major concern in designing a driver and most often, very little have been done. What we see is irregularities in the critical upper midrange frequency response due to resonances in the cone and suspension. Sometimes manufacturers will add a ring of soft glue where the membrane and the suspension meet in order to terminate the energy from the cone. Adding mass here may - hopefully - absorb the energy and leave better performance. But it's tricky business. Some of the old Vifa C17 and C20 drivers are good examples of drivers where a lightweight cone is terminated with a very thin foam suspension and the frequency response is generally smooth and provides easy crossover construction. And they sound good too...

Surfing the web I also came across Audio Note and here we find an 8' drivers with a claimed 'high sensitivity', presumably around 91-92 dB. The SPKR04 looks interesting. Large magnet, long fibre paper cone, foam surround and a coated dust cap. The chassis is a non-vented old SEAS version, the same as used for the CA21REX. Silver voice coil. There's only one obstacle to this driver, the price: 310 £/ea. Serious money.

Following the Audio Note path, I also came across the review of the Audionote AN-E Lexus Signature and this is interesting reading: http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/506an/index.html. First of all the claimed sensitivity of 98 dB (!) turns out to be 92.5 dB as from John Atkinson's measurements. Some difference I should say. I'm sure the answer from Audio Note would be that this speaker should be placed in corners, giving the additional low-end decibels, at least in the bass. But it won't raise the response in the midrange and treble by 6 dB, that's for sure. However, this clearly shows there's no limit to how much producers will overrate their products. The point of crossover is claimed to be around 2 kHz and it turns out to be close to 3 kHz. See graph below.

This speaker is also available in an all-silver version for the humble amount of 69,500 £. Three quarter of a million Danish Kroner. Well, well, well......

An 8' driver running to 3 kHz? Well, all depends. Next the frequency response from this AN-E speaker is claimed to be 17 Hz to 23 kHz. Now that's something! Qvortrup suggests that the woofer's theoretical maximum sensitivity is in the neighborhood of 100dB—and the overall system sensitivity is stated as a very high 98dB....(read here) 'theoretical maximum sensitivity'..... what a load of rubbish! 98 dB sensitivity and only 6 dB down at 17 Hz. Dear friends, seek no more. Go buy the AN-E and all you need is 2-3 SET watts from a good 2A3 valve.
We could try to simulate cone excursion to make this performance, but it's futile. The paper cone would have left the chassis for good from making this stunt!

The Tonegen tweeter in this kit seems a bit odd. Peaking severely at 10 kHz and falling some 8-10 dB from 10 kHz to 20 kHz. It's really not a problem getting a 92 dB tweeter these days that will perform better. I don't say the sound of the Tonegen tweeter isn't good, but....
Anyway, this doesn't mean there may not be a lesson to be learned from this speaker, in particular because it's derived from the extinct Snell E/II designed by Peter Snell more than two decades ago and Peter had a lot of good ideas.
A simple two-way from a relatively large bass driver, a 1' dome tweeter and the crossover is simplicity itself, 2nd order to the bass and 1st order to the tweeter. Now this is interesting. Why not the other way around? 6 dB to the bass and 12 dB to the tweeter... Well, one explanation may be that 12 dB to the right midbass may provide a close to 24 dB roll-off characteristic and this - sometimes - goes well with a 1st order filter to the tweeter. It's a tough job for tweeter and it needs an LCR circuit to flatten the impedance and keep response down below 1 kHz, otherwise we'll burn the voice coil quickly. Below the AN-E kit from a German magazine. I don't know how old this scan is.

The notch filter is interesting as it works exactly at 1 kHz and the two 1 ohm resistors in parallel may not only flatten the impedance notch but also take the impedance close to zero at this frequency.
In a probably later crossover version taken from the Owner's Manual, this is found (my transfer to LspCAD):


Not much different from the first one shown.


On the AN website it is clearly stated that these speakers should placed in corners to perform as specified and that's fine if you don't care about early reflections and lack of transparency. Not so clear is what the various bass drivers are. Apparently the SPKR-002 and -003 are small magnet 8' drivers and the SPKR-004 and -005 have a larger magnet, the -005 even an alnico magnet although this is not available for the time being due to supply problems of alnico magnets. My best guess is that the -002 and -003 are 89-90 dB drivers where the larger magnet may provide an additional 2 dB, thus 91-92 dB. And this in the critical midrange. It doesn't matter what a driver does at 1 kHz (old time practice for measuring a driver's sensitivity was at 1 kHz). A driver may easily have a sensitivity around 93-94 dB at 1 kHz, but it doesn't help if the sensitivity is 90 dB at 400 Hz. The lower and middle midrange (160-640 Hz) is basically where a driver's sensitivity is defined. From a 20-25 grams cone weight and a magnet size of 120 x 20 mm it's difficult to extract more than 92 dB sensitivity unless we take special precautions in designing the voice coil and magnet gap.


Just found this picture on the web. These are probably the new Audio Note drivers with new spider chassis. To the left the alnico version. Right/front, the ceramic version and at the back, the small-magnet version. Dependant on the voice coil length, impedance and cone weight, these driver may easily reach 93-94 dB sensitivity except for the small-magnet version. Some of former SEAS cones are blue (CA25FEY), so these are not necessarily hemp cones.

If we have to go higher in sensitivity, we need a much lighter membrane like seen on the Supravox 215GMF where we are down to around 12 grams moving mass. This makes some 96 dB sensitivity, but there are other problems when we do this. I've recently tried the 215GMF and I was very impressed by its sensitivity, but not so much from the serious cone break-ups at 1-2 kHz, right where it was least needed. This driver apparently needs a horn or a high-sensitivity middriver from around 500-800 Hz.


With a suitable ribbon a two-way can be made with sensitivity around 96 dB/2.8V (- and 8 ohms impedance!)
Unfortunately the 215GMF has a response like this:


The blue is the 215GMF. What happens between 1 and 2 kHz is irreparable.
The red is the 215RTF, seems like a better options, but there are other problems.

Anyway, this wasn't going to be about Supravox, rather a conventional 2-way from an 8' midbass and a dome tweeter. Back to the -

SEAS CA21REX + Dynaudio Esotar.

These drivers were set up in a 60 litres cabinet and a vent tuning of approx. 30 Hz was provided. The crossover is this:

Fairly simple crossover. Basically 1st order on the electrical side and drivers has same polarity as the tweeter being in front of the bass driver. Same as Audio Note. The CA21REX doesn't behave too well at 800-1000 Hz and a minor bump had to be removed by a notch filter.

Drivers Hours Relaxed


SEAS CA21REX + Dynaudio T330D.


The SEAS CA21REX with extra 120 mm magnet.

By the way: The 'DD' of the SEAS CA21REX refers to 'two high conducting rings placed at each end of the motor coil. These act as eddy current brakes, firmly halting additional cone excursion as the rings enter the magnetic field'. Thanks to Martin Colloms/High Performance Loudspeakers, page 79, 6th edition.

So what does it sound like? Well, better than expected I have to say. The Esotar is an excellent tweeter but it's on a tough job running from a single 6.8 uF capacitor. Placing a finger on the dome it can easily be felt that it's moving a lot due to the shallow slope of the crossover. What struck me the most when I first connected the speakers was how lean it was. The bass goes really deep from the 60 litres cab volume and you surely don't miss any low-end information. The bass is fast and transient and maybe lacking in some upper bass/lower midrange warmth. This cabinet is reasonably braced and I guess the severe resonances of the low-damped AN-E plywood box may add to the overall sound and possibly give a warmer presentation. The midrange is far better than I would have thought and dispersion doesn't seem to be a major problem and I'm sure the tweeter's 1st order filter helps here. Would I listen only to my latest vinyl - the Anthony Wilson trio/our gang - and similar stuff - then I could easily live happy ever after with this speaker. Transparency is fine and listening to a drum kit is very enjoyable. It is physically a big speaker, and it sounds like a big speaker.


Response of drivers in cabinet without crossover attached.

The CA21REX is well above 90 dB for 2.8 V, but had we used the 1 kHz rule it would have been around 94 dB. Actually the PD from SEAS says 93 dB, which is not very useful. The Esotar performs exceptionally well but is does have a very early roll-off compared to many other 1' domes. Really designed for 1st order filters. And I'm sure the Dynaudio people would tell us not to worry, this tweeter can take a lot of heat.

Changing the rubber surrounds of the CA21REX to foam surround.


Rubber to the left and foam to the right.


Rubber and foam to the left and the rear of the DT300 tweeter that will be used in these experiments.

Changing the surround was easier than anticipated. The rubber can usually be peeled off from the metal chassis and with a scalpel the rubber was cut close to the cone. Slicing off soft rubber from a soft paper cone with a scalpel is not funny at all. However, in this case it was possible to also peel off the rubber remains from the cone - very slowly and it only ripped off a very small amount of paper pulp material. So all in all, a nice job could be done.

New cabs for this experiment:

A pair of test cabs were made resembling the AN drawing above. Approx. 55 litres of volume and I chose MDF for front and rear panel, chipboard for top, bottom and sides. Mixing various materials may not be such a bad idea. The modest bracing of the AN cab was followed closely and also modest damping material was added. I admit this cab appear less resonant than I had expected. No bitumen pads were used.

Routing for the waveguide is a bit tricky. Read C17-II. After slowly routing into the waveguide, stop after reaching a level shown on the photo to the left. Remove the major part of plastic as seen on photo (mid). If this piece of plastic is all of a sudden released during routing it can cause some damage to the edge of the remaining waveguide.

The front panel is attached by screws to allow more drivers to be tested. Front and rear panels were given some paint and sides + top some vinyl wrap. Increases test-cap-WAF considerably!

TS data CA21REX-foam/magnets:

Drivers heaven

The Fs really went up from this foam surround. I had hoped for some 40 Hz, but 47 Hz is a bit on the high side. From the Supravox drivers I learned not to worry too much about the Fs as these drivers have an Fs around 65 Hz! Yet, they provide excellent bass from 80 litre cabinets.
Looking at the math, 55 litres cabinet volume is too much for the AN driver as well as the modified CA21REX driver. They both - ideally - should have smaller cabs, around 30 litres, but here we go with 55 litres and should make an F3 around 42 Hz. The modified CA21 REX wasn't run in when these data were made and hopefully Fs will go down a bit and subsequently increase Vas. Fs around 40 Hz would have been ideal. The foam surround has a thickness of 0.7 mm, where the Vifa C20 drivers use 0.5 mm foam. The Vifa surround is very narrow, where the new foam surround for the SEAS has a larger half-roll. I guess 0.6 mm foam for the SEASs would have been ideal. So what about sensitivity from these tweaks?

The modified SEAS CA21REX to the left, 1 metre distance and 2.8 V. Red = SPL, blue = min. phase. I now call the driver CA21REX-FDM. Foam and double magnet. Now this SPL response is a surprise. The bass response is very dependant on from where you merge the nearfield response; here at 400 Hz, so don't put too much into the bass response. It very much looks like this from 400 Hz and down, but the absolute level may vary relative to the mid and upper midrange.
This driver appears to be more manageable compared to the rubber version shown earlier. The rubber version had a sudden shift in level around 800 Hz, where the 900-2500 range had a 4-5 dB increase in level, making the crossover construction quite difficult. Despite the foam version having a minor dip at 1 kHz, this response is much more manageable as will be seen from the LspCAD simulation and final crossover construction. And not to forget: The response is some 94-95 dB/2.8V. More than I had hoped for. It is obvious that the heavy rubber surround adds to the moving mass and the use of foam surround helps increasing the SPL response significantly.

To the right the SPL response from the DT300 tweeter with waveguide. Placing the DT300 + waveguide on a relatively wide baffle further increases the response in the 1000-1500 Hz range. Compare to the narrow baffle of the C17-II. The DT300 + waveguide is indeed very suitable for speakers with an average sensitivity in the 95 dB/2.8V range.

To the left both drivers on the same graph. To the right, the impedance and phase profiles of the drivers. With a 72 (ID) x 50 mm vent, a box tuning of 40 Hz is achieved. It seems possible to achieve relatively high overall impedance and hopefully an easy load on low-wattage valve amps.

The crossover:

My initial approach to the crossover was a first order topology. Like the C17-II. Why not? Same tweeter and a big 8' bass rather than two smaller 6' drivers. Modelling seemed easy but soon after starting hardwiring the crossover everything went wrong. A coil for the bass and a cap to the tweeter and LCRs to control the roll-off at point of crossover. No problem at all, BUT the phase tracking was horrible - and it really didn't sound too good either. Same or reverse polarity of the tweeter gave almost the same results despite nice performance in the LspCAD. Now, in LspCAD you have to correct the relative distance from microphone to drivers to render the phase tracking right and this can sometimes be trouble. Where the C17 drivers and the DT300 seem to emerge from almost the same plane, this was definitely not the case with the CA21REX-FDM and the DT300. The step response displays the bass driver more delayed compared to the tweeter. Actually the tweeter had to de added 10 mm distance to the mic, with the bass at zero. Hmm....

To control the peak at 2600 Hz from the bass driver, a notch filter is needed with a first order filter and it performed reasonably well. The DT300 was no problem, but I guess the steep roll-off from the large 8' drivers was what caused the trouble and the C17 approach simply didn't work. To cut a long story short, a 2nd order filter was tried and this immediately made everything fall into place. Flat response, good phase tracking and the nulling effect from reverse tweeter polarity was deep as should be.

So, speakers connected to the amp, volume tuned up one third, CD in the drawer, a drummer hitting his snare drum very hard at the intro - and I almost got a heart attack. 95 dB sensitivity is immediately heard - and felt. Talk about a fast speaker. Some CDs later this tuning turned out to be just too much. Basically flat SPL tuned up to around 95 dB, the bass a little retracted but very fast and articulate. But voicing this speakers for at 95 dB sensitivity produced too much presence and 'right-in-face'. Details in spades, but vocal and sax to energetic. Time to revise the crossover once more.

The V5 crossover is a bit annoying as it came very close to the AN-E crossover and I didn't want to make a clone of this speaker, but after very little modelling and very much cut'n try this emerged:

A simple 2nd order filter and same polarity of drivers.

Abbreviations used: foam - driver fitted with foam surround. 2 mgn - driver added additional magnet. WG = wave guide. NO = no magnetic oil (oil removed).

The sound....

The CA21REX + DT300-WG-NO, version 5 - as seen above - has been playing for some time in our living room and I've gotten used to the sound. So, time to evaluate.
This really doesn't sound like what I'm used to listen to. First of all, the increased sensitivity is immediately felt and heard and it's very easy to turn up the volume too much because distortion appears low.
Driver integration appears excellent and no trouble in blending the sounds from the large 8' driver and the 30 mm dome, thanks to the waveguide and crossover.
What I had expected was some noticeable box colouration from the large, poorly braced and damped box. Not so. What comes from this set-up appear to come from the drivers and what's reflected from the front baffle.

It's difficult to review your own speakers and in this case I feel like what I read in magazine reviews sometimes. Scepticism at the beginning, but after some time you get accustomed to the sound and start enjoying what this speaker is good at. Because very few speakers are good at everything.
I strongly suggest reading the editorial notes from HiFi-World, Sept-06 issue. In this issue, 3 large speaker systems are tested - B&W, Tannoy and JBL. All very high-end speakers at very high prices - and the editor can't help wondering how very, very different they sound. They're all very good at, well, most of it, but still - very different. And we may go on indefinitely discussing which one is the best. Which is kind of comforting, because there will never be a definitive speaker being the role model for all other speakers. Well, the QUAD ESL 57 may be the role model for midrange supremacy, but that's about it. Very few speakers reach this kind of iconic status.

The CA21REX/DT300WG is not an idiosyncratic speaker. It's easy to listen to; gives major insight into the music, transparent midrange, undistorted treble and the overall transient attack is simply great. It's a revealing speaker and may leave a few poor recordings out, but not to a degree where I would call it idiosyncratic. I've pulled out - what I thought was the most difficult recordings - and have been surprised to find them performing well where a few recordings I thought wouldn't cause trouble, wasn't so good.

A few weeks later:
These speakers have stayed in the living room much longer than planned. It appears the CA21REX has some serious burn-in time. For every week passing, they're getting better and better. Could I find some suitable foam surrounds that would make an Fs of 40 Hz, I'd feel tempted to make a final set-up from these drivers. I think there's a possibility of getting just a little more bass without spoiling the current smooth response.
Yesterday I bought a double-LP, Natalie Cole: 'Take A Look'. This is one recording all producers should hear to learn what a good vocal recording can be. Brass, bass, drums, woodwinds, piano, etc. All recorded very well and Natalie's voice never become harsh. Smooth, yet powerful with a natural sibilance. I wish all Diana Krall recordings were made this way.
The CA21/DT300 very much presents the virtues of a simple two-way with a simple crossover. I'm sure the dome + waveguide plays a major role in revealing these qualities.

Measurements

First of all, the frequency response. 1 metre distance at a height between bass and tweeter. Blue = minimum phase.
Sensitivity = 93-94 dB/2.8V. In the critical midrange the sensitivity amounts to 93.7 dB/2.8V.

Dispersion measured at 1 metre distance.
Left: Horizontal dispersion: Red = on-axis, blue = 10°, green = 20° and purple = 30°.
Right: Vertical dispersion: Red = on-axis, blue = -10°, green = -20°.
There's some roll-off from the tweeter/waveguide at 20°, but basically we have a smooth and even response over a wide listening area.
Vertical dispersion is much better than anticipated. The microphone was lowered 10° and 20° below reference point. Below the same is shown from lifting the microphone 10° and 20° above reference point. I'm very pleased with these results being well in line with my listening experiences.


Left: Vertical dispersion: Red = on-axis, blue = +10°, green = +20°. Right: Step response.

Left: Impedance plot of version 5 crossover. Two vent tunings are shown. Red = 72 mm (ID) x 50 mm vent. Blue = 72 mm (ID) x 20 mm (= no tube used).
Right: Individual response of drivers from crossover plus summed response. Point of crossover = ~2,300 Hz. The bass response is merged at 400 Hz with a nearfield measurement. Vent response is not included here.

High Efficiency Speakers, part III, Vifa C20WH-07-09
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Looking at extinct Snell E/II and /III speakers, I came to think about the old Vifa C20, 8' driver. The C20 is found in numerous versions like the C17. The C20 has a lightweight paper cone, a narrow foam surround and the 'H' provides a 90 mm magnet for a 1' voice coil, probably giving decent sensitivity. Googling the C20WH, I found a single shop where the C20 was available, probably some old stock and this is what I found in seller's storage.

Really nice looking C20 drivers. Fresh foam surrounds and untinted cones. An additional 90 magnet was added to increase sensitivity. When you add an extra magnet it has be to pushed away from the speaker's magnet. If the extra magnet is sucked in, it will decrease magnetic flux in the gap. Strangely enough, if it's very easy to get the extra magnet in place, it usually only means a small increase in sensitivity. If you really have take special measures to keep the magnet in place, there's usually an significant increase in sensitity. I keep the extra magnet in place by tape after adding a small amount of silicon glue between the two magnets, and add a clamp overnight.

The usual frequency and phase measurements were done at 1 metre distance to front panel and files were imported into LspCAD and modelling could start.
As can be seen below, the C20 is an unusual driver. It can almost be used without a crossover. Basically flat in all midrange, and had the smooth roll-off started at 1500-2000 Hz, it might have run from no crossover at all. But it doesn't... Any 8' driver mingling with treble is trouble due to beaming and the sound becomes honky. A very small inductor, 0.56 mH, bypassed by a 12 ohms resistor does the job. The 22 uF + 3.3 ohms resistor provides impedance correction - and a little more...
From recent
C17 experience, the DT300WG crossover was almost given and a 1st order filter could be added and fortunately the phase tracking was nice too.
Piece of cake! A two-way system, impedance 8 ohms and sensitivity at 95 dB/2.8V. Due to the relatively high impedance, this speaker is close to having an efficiency of 96dB/1W/1m.
It's currently driven by a 6W 6C33 single ended triode amp and this modest amp has no problem playing really loud without clipping.


Crossover version 2 and LspCAD SPL and phase prediction.

The X-over


10 ohms resistor used for by-passing the 0.56 mH coil. 10R or 12R can be used.
I suggest using 22 uF pp in the bass section and 2 x 33 uF pp for the '68' cap, however electrolytic, as seen above, will do fine.


Crossover components available from
Jantzen Audio.

Measurements:


SPL of C20 'as-is' (red) and one 90 mm magnet added (blue).
Reading merged with nearfield response at 350 Hz.


Left: SPL from drivers without crossover attached. Right: SPL from drivers with crossover and summed response from system.


Left: Impedance of final system. Smooth from 200-20,000 Hz and with the usual bumps from a vented system, tuned to 40 Hz (72 mm (ID) x 50 mm vent). Right: SPL from system at 2.8V. Red = minimum phase.

Sound:

Compared to the SEAS CA21REX set-up, it is immediately felt that due to the lower Fs of the C20 drivers, 39 Hz, the bass is deeper. Maybe not as tight as the CA21, but overall a more balanced presentation.
The C20 provides an excellent midrange and due to the 'waveguided' tweeter, a smooth integration is possible, something I wouldn't have thought possibly a few months ago.
From modest wattage amps high levels can be accomplished and the only question left is: What would happen if this set-up was placed in a heavy, well-braced and well-damped enclosure? It's obvious the AN cabinet adds colouration, although subjectively much lower than I had expected.
The CA21REX was really meant to be used in a coming 3-way construction and to make a long story short, the C20 + DT300 will stay in place as an example of a simple 2-way system of more than average sensitivity and how much fun can be had from a total of ~250 US $ - including cabs. I'm enjoying it a lot.

HES Summary

This turned out to quite a long article and without summarising all key points above, it all ended at the point where I had my own high-efficiency, extended range driver made by SEAS/Norway. This driver turned out very suitable for a wide range of applications and the results can be seen here:
TQWT-mkIII
DTQWT-mkIII
QUATTRO-mkII
OB-9
OBL-11
OBL-15

Sebastian Vettel isn’t “aggressive”, rather he is “highly motivated” to succeed says his new team-mate Otmar Szafnauer.

Told by Ferrari that 2020 would his final season with the Scuderia, Vettel was left considering his options – to continue in Formula 1 with a new team, or retire.

He chose the former.

After months of debate, the German driver announced that he would be joining Aston Martin, formerly Racing Point, for the 2021 season.

Many are predicting that the new adventure will benefit Vettel, who had a wretched final year with Ferrari.

Scoring just 33 points, Vettel went without a win for only the third time in his Formula 1 carer in a season in which once again he was criticised for his mistakes.

“I don’t think he’s aggressive,” Szafnauer told Sky F1. “I think his attitude coming here is like he said – he wants to continue racing if it can be fun.

“He’s highly motivated.”

Vettel will partner Lance Stroll in this year’s championship.

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It is a partnership that Szafnauer believes will be “great” for the team.

While the 2021 season marks Vettel’s 14th racing in Formula 1, Stroll is competing in his fifth season in the sport.

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At very different stages in their careers, Szafnauer feels both will be able to learn lessons from the other.

He said: “I think he and Lance will be a great partnership.

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“Seb is very experienced but not over the hill by any means at the age of 33. Lance is much younger and on the learning curve but naturally very fast.

“I think that combination will suit us very well, and the other thing is we’ve had a history of drivers working very closely together to extract the most we can out of the team and the car.

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“Even in the days when Esteban [Ocon] and Sergio [Perez] would occasionally come together on track, behind the scenes they shared all their data and worked together tirelessly to make sure we got the best out of the car over a weekend and I can see that will continue with Sebastian and Lance. I look forward to that.

“Lance can learn from Seb, Seb can learn from Lance as well because Lance is the veteran here. He’s the one who has driven last year’s car, he knows the characteristics of it more so than Seb does. So I look forward to that pairing.”

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